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caswellhb

How do I get my darn numbers down?

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caswellhb

Although I am fit and healthy during this pregnancy so far, I just can't get my numbers back down.

I do have a lot of sickness but other than that am fine. I'm shooting insulin as if it is going out of fashion!

I'm pretty much living on veg.

Is all this because of the spawn?

Any ideas?

 

Heather.

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Penny

When you find the answer, please let me know. I am struggling too. Seems like the harder I try, the higher my numbers go. I can't believe how much insulin I am using now, and I still don't have good numbers! :mad:

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Jan B

This isn't much of an answer & you likely already know, but, stressing over those numbers might keep them higher.

 

Heather, I'd bet your problem is because of the spawn!

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ladytaz

Well I don't understand that!! Not like there isn't R in the mix!! I mean, DUH! What I was thinking is, that maybe you might need to start taking the N and R seperately, or at least take R when in need ... like right NOW when you're running high! That R could alleviate that! And get you down to a nice number, where the mixed can properly do it's job! Know what I mean?

 

Is your doc a specialist?

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caswellhb

She is a specialist. She is taking into account the hiv and the babies. God, the most complicated pregnancy on the planet!

I just want to get these numbers down before I give birth to school sized children though.

 

Heather.

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ladytaz

That's true, but still, I think you need some R, separately, as well! I haven't been through a pregnancy with full on D, so I don't know the specifics about how to deal with all that. But, I know Cheryl and Rikki have, and hopefully, they'll get on here and give you some good advice on what insulins you can/should take and in what doses are safe and all that stuff! ;)

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cheryl

Any smart specialist would honestly realize you cannot use a mix while you are pregnant and living off most veggies is not going to do the trick....

 

I was on a lot of insulin pregnant with my first three, I don't think a mix will ever get your number down, that is just the flat out truth.....

 

I hate to be so bold and blunt, but it is time to handcuff yourself to the emergency room walls, because now is the time you are taking other lives into consideration, and if this speicialists does not realize that a mix and pregnancy do not work well with diabetes, then she is not really worth your time....and you need to move elsewhere, in any way possible....

 

By the way congrats on the babies...I was in shock when I read that, but I am very happy for you...

 

Cheryl

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susique333

When I had my 3 diabetic babies, my regular OB sent me to a Perinatologist who then handled the gestation and let the OB do the c-section deliveries. (Even with so-so control these babies were delivered early, the largest 10 1/2#s.) Initially my BS was hard to get control of. I was seen every 2 weeks until the 6th month then twice weekly for stress tests (to check the variability of the babys heart beat). I had monthly ultrasounds starting from month one, they paid particular attention to the little tikes heart structures. I met with the dietitian as needed if I felt that the insulin needed tweaked. I was on both long and short acting insulin for all pregnancies, testing BS before and after meals, before bed and set an alarm to check at 4a.m. My numbers were all over the place until I got over the nausea at 12 weeks so I hope things settle down for you when the stress of the nausea leaves and the numbers come down.

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caswellhb

I'm really hoping the sickness will stop soon. I'm praying for it and I'm not religious.

Getting a bit worried as it seems diabetic mums have huge babies. I'm only little. Errrrrrr, not to put too fine a point on it, but getting large babies out of a little body doesn't sound fun!

Hmmmmm, well, I'll have to see how that goes.

My numbers are driving me nuts. The more insulin I take, the higher I go! Grrrrrrr. I'm cornering a market here.

 

Heather.

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ladytaz

I still think you need some fast acting insulin, Heather! I would really stress this to your doctor! The Mix isn't going to help you with random highs! For now, TRY not to stress over it! Easier said than done, I know!! ;) If you're having an issue with insulin resistance, I'm not sure there's anything that can be done. I don't think preggy mum's can take Metformn. I'm not positive on that note, though!

 

Don't worry too much about the size of the babies. My mother in law, had twin boys (my hubby's one of them) she's a wee little thing. BOTH boys were over 7 lbs. each!!!! This was back in 1961 too! And NO C-section, either!! Vaginal birth, both of them!! No, she wasn't diabetic at the time (though she is T2 now), but still. To even carry twins full term, and have them BOTH weigh what a single birth baby does, is amazing to me! It can be done!! ;)

 

As for me, I'm a wee one too -though the body has hidden that fact for years now! LOL I do have a very small frame though. I managed to have an 8 lb. 6 oz. boy, in just over one hour at that, and I was NOT diabetic at that time. Vaginally and NO meds, whatsoever!! He was my easiest to have. He was my second baby.

 

My daughter, I had GD, and she weighed 7 lb. 14oz. Vaginally as well, and only some pain meds in the middle of labor. By the time delivery came, actually about 1.5 hours before it came, I had NO meds whatsoever in me!

 

Funny thing is, my first one, he was my smallest at 6 lb. 9 oz. and I SWEAR he was trying to kill me! LOL Labor for 3 days, NO kidding!! Still again, NO meds, except some Demerol, which did NOTHING for my pain, but did allow me to get some sleep in between contractions! And dream some VERY vivid dreams in those 2 to 3 minute spans! LOL

 

I MADE my husband (at the time) SWEAR to me that he'd NEVER get me pregnant EVER again. Guess what? Two and a half months later, I was pregnant with "the big one"! LOLOL

 

I think you'll be fine, no matter the size of the babies. They are MUCH better equipped to deal with these things these days!

 

The most important thing, is their health!!

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caswellhb

Yes, the health of the spawn is paramount. I'm trying so hard to get this right.

I have a scan tomorrow and will try to post the pictures. My little blobs are sucking me dry. Bless them.

The thing is, I have lost so much weight and am already just beginning to show. These babies are going to be born ready to play for the packers!

 

Heather.

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ladytaz

Pics would be SO cool!! :D The losing weight is probably due to the morning sickness. Unfortunate. But does happen often.

 

Also, that's something else, about the highs. Just thougth about this. When we don't eat, (though that's not by your choice! ;)) Our liver thinks OMG the body isn't getting any fuel ... I MUST PUMP OUT MORE GLUCOSE!!! This could be attributing to your highs! Lack of food in your body (or keeping it in, rather) and your liver is FREAKING OUT about it, and pumping out the glucose!? Possibility!

 

Hoping this phase passes QUICKLY for you!

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Real4
She is a specialist. She is taking into account the hiv and the babies. God, the most complicated pregnancy on the planet!

I just want to get these numbers down before I give birth to school sized children though.

 

Heather.

 

Get another specialist!

And the best of luck to you and yours.

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caswellhb

Thank you Melissa. Yes, I'm about ready to rip my liver out and sell it to the highest bidder. Ebay looks good.

I'm really hoping this will settle down in a while.

 

Heather.

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ladytaz
Thank you Melissa. Yes, I'm about ready to rip my liver out and sell it to the highest bidder. Ebay looks good.

I'm really hoping this will settle down in a while.

 

Heather.

 

LOL @ "ebay looks good"! Hey, we can do a two for one deal, my sinuses and your liver!

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Keezheekoni

Heather, I had all five of my kids while diabetic. The largest one was 7#5oz, the smallest was 4#8oz. I do not have big babies.

 

One reason is that I have always done the two insulins thing. Be it N and R, NPH and R, Lantus and Humalog... I keep my numbers in tight control because I found that if I didn't then I was a vomiting mess... (TMI?) No, seriously with two of my pregnancies I had hyperemesis. If I didn't keep under 160 most of the time, that would trigger a nice vomiting event. :(

 

I saw midwives mostly during my pregnancies. The ones I saw also had friends who were endos and perinatologists. They kept pretty good watch over me, but in the end it was me correcting and tweaking more than the specialists.

 

I would think that you should see someone who specializes in diabetic pregnancy (a lot of OBs here are really good at it), and maybe they could have you try different insulins. I don't think you should be on a mix anymore, it just doesn't work well for pregnancy... You really need a bolus insulin so that you can eat!

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ladytaz
Heather, I had all five of my kids while diabetic. The largest one was 7#5oz, the smallest was 4#8oz. I do not have big babies.

 

One reason is that I have always done the two insulins thing. Be it N and R, NPH and R, Lantus and Humalog... I keep my numbers in tight control because I found that if I didn't then I was a vomiting mess... (TMI?) No, seriously with two of my pregnancies I had hyperemesis. If I didn't keep under 160 most of the time, that would trigger a nice vomiting event. :(

 

I saw midwives mostly during my pregnancies. The ones I saw also had friends who were endos and perinatologists. They kept pretty good watch over me, but in the end it was me correcting and tweaking more than the specialists.

 

I would think that you should see someone who specializes in diabetic pregnancy (a lot of OBs here are really good at it), and maybe they could have you try different insulins. I don't think you should be on a mix anymore, it just doesn't work well for pregnancy... You really need a bolus insulin so that you can eat!

 

Thank you for posting, Rikki! I knew you'd have some good advice for her!! ;) I'm thinking right along the same lines as you are! :) Though I've not been on insulin while preggy, my common sense is telling me, that the mix just ain't gonna quite cut it, during this time at least.

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