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christie

zocor and helping protect your heart

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christie

i started on zocor in august,and it took me about two weeks to get used to it.but i thought about the possible side effects to the side effects of a stroke or heart attack,i went with the zocor.but now the insurance won't pay for the zocor,instaed they switched to a non name cheapy.i was wondering if anyone else had seen that zocor was the drug that also helped protect your heart.thanks

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lgvincent

Merck has a program for those who can't afford Zocor. Call them at 800/727-5400. I think you'll get an answering machine but after going through the selections, I think you'll be able to talk to someone. Perhaps they can tell you how to enroll in the program.

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HeatherP

Hi Christie. You can usually appeal a decision made by your insurance co for meds. Many times your doctor just has to call them and explain why he wants you on specifically the brand-name drug. I've had to do it several times over the years and have a 100% success rate.

 

Good luck!

HeatherP

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christie

what i was trying to ask was zocor the only statin drug that has been proven to also protect your heart from the diabetes and reduce the cholesterol. or are they all heart protectors. i had believed that i read that zocor was the only one to help with your heart. i just want to know my facts before i ask my dr. to make the calls,thanks

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Shalyndria
Originally posted by christie

what i was trying to ask was zocor the only statin drug that has been proven to also protect your heart from the diabetes and reduce the cholesterol. or are they all heart protectors. i had believed that i read that zocor was the only one to help with your heart. i just want to know my facts before i ask my dr. to make the calls,thanks

In regards to the ads that promote Zocor (simvastatin) as protecting the heart, Merck funded in part that study. In reality, all Statins are proven to reduce/prevent CAD (coronary artery disease) and MI (myocardial infarction) by preventing Atherosclerosis (the deposition of fatty compounds on the inner lining of the coronary arteries). It does this by primarily stimulating the clearance of LDL's.

There are five statins currently on the market: lovastatin (Mevacor), simvastatin (Zocor), pravastatin (Pravachol), fluvastatin (Lescol), and atorvastatin (Lipitor).

Your doctor should be able to answer any questions you might have about using a generic Rx.

 

Hope that helps :)

Shy

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archimeech

Christie, not at all. Shy you forgot one. Actually the new drug Crestor is much better at helping with heart protection and also lowering you LDL#(bad cholesterol). You also need to be taking a cocktail of drugs. The findings I have read state that a statin alone is not the key, but that it needs to be taken with something like, Altace. Which is a mild blood pressure medicine. For some reason, the combination of the 2 is very good for Diabetics.

 

I do have a very big warning for everyone using Statins!!!!

 

Be very careful and pay attention to how you are feeling while taking them. I have tried Lipitor, and Crestor, and had the same horrible results. I can not take statins. They mess with the liver, but the other problem that they have is they deplete a certain enzyme that is related to good muscle health. If you feel like your muscles a very very sore for no apparent reason, go in to your doctor's office for a blood test.

 

after about 45 days on both Lipitor and Crestor, I felt like I had run a marathon and then had someone beat the heck out of me for a day or 2.

 

They checked my blood work relating to statins after much begging and pleading on my part. The doctor and all his nurses kept saying," It can't possibly be the Crestor, it's been proven to have the least amount of side effects of any of the statins."

 

Well, my enzyme count which is normally a little high.

regular range is 0-55

my normal is around 250

after Crestor was >2700!!!!!

 

...and this was after having stopped taking it on my own for 3 weeks before they finally did the blood work. If I had continued on with the medicine it actually could have affected my heart and possibly thrown me into cardiac arrest. When I went back to the Doctor, he apologized for not listening to me and told me that he had to report my case to the FDA and I was the 7 known adverse reaction to Crestor.

 

 

Now, that being said, if you can tolerate Statin drugs, I recommend Crestor because it has fewer side effects than any of the others. the problem with it and Zocor are they are not formulary drugs on most people's prescription plans.

 

I am on Altace for blood pressure and a drug called Zetia for cholesterol. Zetia is not a statin and usually given in conjuction with a statin to increase the results. In my case it is the only alternative at the moment.

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sparkle9

Archimeech,

 

Sorry you've had so much trouble with the statins. I've been on Crestor for 10 months now and have had no problems whatsoever. Had blood work last week and everything was great. The Dr. said my lipids were exceptionally good. I feel fortunate that I'm able to take it, since I had an arterial blockage at the end of last year - the only serious complication I've had after 34 yrs. of Type 1. I'm also on an ACE inhibitor (lisinopril) and haven't noticed any side effects with that either.

 

Christie - I would do as Heather suggested and have your doctor contact your insurance company. I had to do that for one of the medications I took last summer.

 

Sparkle

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christie

i had a hard time getting used to the zocor,i had headaches and brusing,but the nurse said that i'd get used to taking them.i go to the dr. on the 4th so i'll ask what kind is better.my ldl was 214,and my reg. cholesterol was 211.i also take an ace inhibitor for my kidneys,thanks for all the help and info.

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archimeech

Your numbers still aren't good enough. You've got to get them down. Ask him if taking Zetia along with the Zocor would be helpful for you. One of the guys I work with takes Lipitor and droped his ldl almost within range. He began to take Zetia right along with the statin and his ldl is now right on target.

Also, you may want to see about Crestor. If you can tolerate stains, then I would strongly suggest you take Crestor over any other.

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christie

i have'nt had a blood test since starting on the zocor,i will ask the dr to do one next week.i have never heard of zetia. makes you wonder why drs don't suggest the meds,but they are'nt the one who would have a stroke or mi.i had to ask the dr to give me the ace inhibitor ,they never mentioned it. hey i want to stay around as long as i can.i guess for most drs we have to speak up,hey they are only a person.

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archimeech

Most people give the car salesman more of a run for their money than they do a Doctor. Remember you're not just a patient, but you are also a customer. You need to be as informed and forthcoming as possible. I have "fired" doctors that did not meet my expectations and have also been "fired" as a patient myself. Some doctors are very threatened by the fact that I question them. I am never rude, but this is my life they are practicing on, and I want to know what's going on,and their reasoning. You should do the same. Especially in this wonderful world of the internet, computers and the Information Revolution we are having.

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sparkle9

I wholeheartedly agree. I've had the same ophthalmologist for 20 yrs. and the same ob-gyn dr. for 8 yrs. They are both very personable, explain everything they do, and have time to just talk to me. Unfortunately I haven't had the same luck with internists or endocrinologists.

 

I have an appt. in December with a new endo. I'm trying to keep an open mind, but have already decided that if he is rude, starts giving orders without explaining why, or gets irritated because I'm asking questions, I'm just going to get up and walk out. There's just no reason to put up with that kind of treatment. They may think they're gods, but they're only doctors!

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KLD

I guess we all make our judgments based on our own experiences. My family doctor is practically useless - that's not quite true - he writes prescriptions and orders tests that I ask him for; my eye specialist is quite good, but I wouldn't rave about him; the same goes for my cardiologist. My endocronologist, however, is incredibly thorough and open-minded. He listens and makes sure he understands my questions, he has ordered the most thorough lab tests I've ever had, and he acts as though he has all the time in the world to spend with me. I have never been so impressed with a doctor. Like all of us, doctors are only human and they're all different.

 

Karen

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archimeech

I agree KLD. I haven't had bad experiences with all my doctors, but you have to be informed and on top of them. Sounds like you hit a gold min with that Endo. Hold onto him. I'm still looking for the Endo that will listen, know the latest news and research, and be willing to help me beat this disease, not just maintain.

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christie

i have went through a few drs who i did'nt feel they were doing their job.it seemed like the specialists were nicer than the reg. mds,but the endo i saw is terrible,first when i lost my job due to a insulin reaction and had no insurance i called his office to try to get him to do the papers for the lilly cares program to help me to get insulin,i was told i had to find another way to get my insulin,im sorry i should just wish up 150.00 for humalog.then when he started me on lantus he said here's a bottle ,did'nt say it takes days to get it in your system,did'nt say how much to take,it took for me and some great members of this forum to educate me. the sad part is there is'nt another endo anywhere around here.

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archimeech

Christie, you need to report his lack of care and professional compasion to your local and state medical board. also, you should file a complaint with the Department of Labor for losing your job. that is discrimination!

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christie

we all know that diabetics get discriminated,the last place was at did'nt word it that way,i was told business was slow and if it picked up i could be called back,but after 1 month of me getting let go they hired a new person for my old job.as with the endo i will consider reporting him,last time i tried to ask him a question and he would'nt even let me finish my sentance.

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mike9876

Here in the UK you can buy zocor over the counter now which I think is worrying. Statins are dangerous drugs and zocor has many side affects from muscle wasting to loss of libido. If somebody buys zocor over the counter in the chemist and have side effects they might not put it down to zocor and people with normal cholesterol level will start to take it. I think there is an unhealthy push for lower cholesterol and there is still no proof that high cholesterol causes heart disease because just as many people die from heart disease who have low cholesterol as with high cholesterol. Statins do protect the heart but even now they don't know why. They make out they know but they don't, just the same with type 2 diabetes they don't know what causes it but just guess.

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archimeech

:- .A curse and a pox on their business, christie! I'll get my little Eastern Mediteranean Mother working on it this weekend. Does anybody know what I did with my sacrificial goat?

 

All kidding aside, I'm sorry it happened to you. People sometimes, really suck.

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