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Hi Ela, 

 

Today I kept the BS in the range of 82 to 160. (Accu Check). I am still in discovery mode.  The changes that I did to my lifestyle, from the moment I was diagnosed, are: 

 

- Started walking 30 mins.

- Completely stopped sugar.

- Completely stopped eating rice.

- Completely avoided wheat (I did eat once and saw the reading shoot to 260)

- No Soda. 

- Not going to drink alcohol. ( used to drink one or two a week).

 

I am eating steamed lintels and it is not shooting my BS very high.  I am drinking 1/2 cup of skimmed milk before going to bed and soon after waking up.

 

After spending time on this forum I learned a lot and , my stress level is a bit manageable now.. Have a great weekend.  When I come across any useful information, I will share with you all.  Planning to visit a diabetic specialist next week.   Will share his inputs as well. 

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It seems alcohol interferes with insulin function.  Also on my medication, it is written that I should inform my doctor if I am consuming alcohol. So I am bit concerned. My first goal is to get my A1C level below 6.   (Everyone one is saying 12.7 is very high).  I will also focus on spiritual progress and to calm my mind and do some meditation. 

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Ela

Interferes with insulin function?  That's not how it works and actually alcohol usually is lowering BG ....but I shot up for now. 

 

All in all one step at a time and you are moving in the right direction.  And believe me that all suggestions posted on your thread are from people who were in your shoes and who want to help you on your journey to achieve your goal as fast and as painless as possible! 

 

Good luck and don't forget to keep us posted!

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Kit

There are a few factors with alcohol.

 

Beer can have significant carbs.  I was never much of a drinker to start with, so I don't bother with it anymore.  Some people can handle Lite beer here and there.

 

Hard alcohol, dry wines, etc, can actually lower your blood glucose.  This isn't a big deal for those of us who are just on Metformin or who are managing their diabetes through lifestyle changes alone.

 

However, if you are on insulin, or taking a medication like Glip, I would be careful since that does have potential to lower you more than you might wish.  For now, while you're getting a handle on things, just avoiding alcohol all together is fine.  You can revisit the subject later once you have a better grasp on things and feel more comfortable.

 

Your numbers are certainly improving.  You'll get more comfortable as you start to find your way.  I was so very limited on what I was willing, or thought I could eat at first.  As you keep trying things, get a feel for what not only what works, but what combinations work, things will open back out for you.

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pcramer1

I am still a bit stressed out and scared.  I need some spiritual brainwashing to drive the idea that anything may happen to anyone anytime and we are not in control of anything.  

 

Yesterday night I drank 1/2 cup of coffee with no sugar at 8:00 PM and ate a total of 1/2 cup of mashed chikpeas, onions, capsicum and little bit of potatoes at 9 PM. At 11 PM, my meter reading was at 219.  Today morning it was 98.  

 

I compiled a list of foods by GI.  For the next few days, I am planning to be on top  10.  Will also add the recommended recipes with Tofu (which I definitely like).  I had my gallbladder removed 2 years back.  So, I don't know how my body will digest fats.   May be I am talking too many things and appear too concerned about myself.  Please excuse.

 

FOOD PORTION GI

Artichokes, Jerusalem   1/2 cup  0

Avocado   1/4 cup  0

Broccoli, raw   1 cup  0

Cauliflower, raw   3/4 cup  0

Celery   2 stalks  0

Cucumber, raw   3/4 cup  0

Lettuce   4 leaves  0

Cashews, salted   1.75 ounce  22

Cherries, fresh  18 22

Beans, kidney   2/3 cup, cooked  23

Barley, pearled   1 cup, cooked  25

Grapefruit   1/2 medium  25

Lentils, brown   3/4 cup, cooked  29

Cereal, All-Bran   1/2 cup  30

Lentils, green   3/4 cup, cooked  30

Lima beans, baby, frozen   3/4 cup  32

Pasta, whole wheat spaghetti   1 1/2 cups, cooked  32

M&M's, peanut   15 pieces  33

Yogurt, low-fat, with fruit and sugar   1 cup  33

Yam   1 cooked  37

Apple   1 medium  38

Baked beans   2/3 cup  38

Chocolate cake, with frosting, from a mix   one 4-ounce slice  38

Pasta, spaghetti   1 1/2 cups, cooked  38

Rice, converted, white   1 cup, cooked  38

Tomato juice, canned, no sugar   1 cup  38

Tomato soup   1 cup  38

Pasta, ravioli, meat-filled   6.5 ounces, cooked  39

Black-eyed peas, canned   2/3 cup cooked  42

Chickpeas, canned   2/3 cup  42

Orange   1 medium  42

Peach, fresh   1 large  42

Soup, canned, lentil   9 ounces  44

Sweet potato   5 ounces, cooked  44

Pasta, capellini   6 ounces, cooked  45

Pasta, fettuccine   1 1/2 cups, cooked  45

Grapes, green, fresh   3/4 cup  46

Carrots   1 medium, raw  47

Chocolate pudding, instant, with whole milk   1/2 cup  47

Bulgur   3/4 cup, cooked  48

Grapefruit juice, unsweetened   1 cup  48

Peas, green, frozen   1/2 cup, cooked  48

Oatmeal   1 cup  49

Ice cream, light, vanilla   1/2 cup  50

Pasta, tortellini, cheese-filled   6.5 ounces, cooked  50

Rice, brown   1 cup, cooked  50

Bread, 100% whole grain   1-ounce slice  51

Mango   4 ounces  51

Strawberry jam   1 1/2 tablespoons  51

Banana   1 medium  52

Pasta, linguine   1 1/2 cups, cooked  52

Orange juice, unsweetened   1 cup  53

Maple syrup   1 tablespoon  54

Potato chips, plain, salted   2 ounces  54

Honey   1 tablespoon  55

Oatmeal cookies   4 small  55

Cereal, muesli, Swiss formula   1 ounce  56

Bread, pita, white   1 ounce  57

Basmati rice   1 cup, cooked  58

english muffin   1-ounce slice  58

Muffin, blueberry   1 small  59

Corn   1/2 cup, cooked  60

Muffin, bran   1 small  60

Pizza, cheese   1 slice  60

Cereal, Raisin Bran   1/2 cup  61

Hamburger bun   1.5 ounces  61

Rice, white, long-grain   1 cup, cooked  61

Potatoes, new   1 cup  62

Tortilla chips, plain, salted   1.75 ounces  63

Beets, canned   1/2 cup 64

Raisins   1/2 cup  64

Soup, black bean   1 cup  64

Couscous   3/4 cup, cooked  65

Oatmeal, instant   1 cup  66

Soup, pea, canned   1 cup  66

Croissant   1 medium  67

Pancakes, made from mix   two 4-inch  67

Bread, light rye   1-ounce slice 68

Taco shells, baked  2 68

Bread, white   1-ounce slice  70

Popcorn, plain, cooked in microwave   1 1/2 cups  72

Watermelon, fresh   4 ounces  72

Potatoes, mashed   1 cup  73

Cereal, Bran Flakes   1/2 cup  74

Stuffing, bread   1 ounce  74

Cereal, Grape-Nuts   1/4 cup  75

French fries, frozen, heated   30 fries  75

Cereal, Total   3/4 cup  76

Doughnut, cake-type   1.75 ounces  76

Waffles, Aunt Jemima   one 4-inch  76

English muffin   1 ounce  77

Puffed rice cakes, white   3 cakes  82

Pretzels   1 ounce  83

Potato, baked   1 medium  85

Rice, instant, white   3/4 cup, cooked  87

Gatorade, orange-flavored   1 cup  89

Cereal, Corn Flakes   1 cup  92

Scone, plain   1 ounce  92

Bread, French baguette   1 ounce  95

XP, I dont think you should be eating chickpeas and potatoes. The carbs are too high.....

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xpDiabetes

Hi pcramer, 

 

At present, I am eating lintels with spinach, cucumber, broccoli. The maximum portion of lentils i am eating at a time is around 4 oz. I am a food lover and compared to what I eat, that is shocking low. Today I woke up late at 10 Am and the reading was 136.  I checked at 1:20 PM and it is 135.   Today my anxiety levels are a bit high again.  I am very worried about my career and my kids education.  Can I get them graduated (atleast one of them - it takes 8 years for the first one).   Regarding my career, I lost all ambition ever since I was diagnosed. So, that is not a big issue now.  Very sarcastically, I got an interview call for the next level yesterday.  Of all times, it caught me at the lowest level.  All these thoughts are causing lot of lot of anxiety.  My first challenge is to cope and bring it under control. 

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Kit

Diabetes is not a sentence for death, or kidney disease, or blindness, heart disease, or anything else.  It does mean, however, that you will have a chronic disease that will be with you for the rest of your life.  If you manage this disease well, you and your diabetes will be around to see your kids grow up, become independent adults, and have families of their own.

 

That's the clincher.  Managing your diabetes well.  See, most doctors out there don't have diabetics manage their diabetes well.  A lot of studies out there considered diabetes managed if someone has an A1C at 7 (an average of around 180).  Those of us here do not believe that is well managed at all.  My personal goal,and the goal of many here, is to get as close to non diabetic numbers as we can get without driving ourselves batty.  (Mr Fuzzy would argue that it would be a short trip for me.)

 

As nice as my doctor is, she is unhappy that I test 3 times a day and would have me test once a day at most.  Why?  I don't understand.  If my numbers are bad, I need to know so I can make adjustments.  If the numbers are good, it reinforces that I'm doing a good job and to keep up what I'm doing.  Its like a little cheering section.  :)

 

Its still just been a few days for you yet.  Its normal to feel overwhelmed, and scared, terrified even.  There was more than one instant where I was curled on the bed sobbing and couldn't stop.  (Mr Fuzzy ended up babbling nonsense at me because he didn't know what else to do.  Eventually he came to something about radioactive zombie penguins and actually made me laugh.)

 

Your life is being turned upside down and it will never be the same.  That doesn't, however, mean that it will be worse.  The sun will shine, the birds will sing, some moron behind you will start blasting his horn .002 seconds after the light turns green.

 

The only future you're going to loose is one you might throw away now thinking you don't have it.

 

Did that make any sense?  It sounded better in my head that it does in print.

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Hi Kit, Thank you for the reinforcing words.  I spoke to one of my friend who was diagnosed at 35.  He said, it took him a month or so to digest the fact and manage the stress.  He suggested me join him for Tennis (even though I am at the ball picking stage in tennis).  He also suggested me attend the Yoga sessions given in YMCA.

 

Yesterday night, my numbers are in 90s.  However, I felt very low and had to eat a quick 1/2 slice of bread and quarter of an apple.

 

Once I meet a diabetic specialist next week, I will post what she prescribes, though it may be suitable only for vegetarians.  Everyone I know is suggesting to use brown rice. My research says, it is no different from white rice, except marginal differences. I attended the Yoga class today and am hopeful that it will work for me too.  My friend said it helped him a lot in managing stress.  Will keep you all posted.

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Stl-T2

You'll get some "false lows" as you get your numbers back down.  Don't worry about them too much and try not to over treat them.  Since they aren't true lows (which would be BG under 70 mg/ml) you don't necessarily need as many or as fast fast carbs.  Your choices sound pretty good.  If you do ever go under 70, though, you'll probably want something faster than an apple and bread.  I forget if you are on any meds.  Probably no need to worry about it if you aren't, but if your doc has you on a sulfonylurea, you should keep some skittles or glucose tabs with you. Metformin doesn't usually cause lows.

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hi STL-T2,

 

How can I control triglycerides and cholesterol levels ?  Also, I developed some eye sight.  Is it because of diabetes ?  I am going to check my eyesight today.

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Ela

Most people get their Triglycerides to normal levels when they follow low carb diet (I'm one of them - from twice as normal to below 100 without any statins or other lowering cholesterol drugs).  Many also get their cholesterol lowered too following that same diet. 

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Kit

hi STL-T2,

 

How can I control triglycerides and cholesterol levels ?  Also, I developed some eye sight.  Is it because of diabetes ?  I am going to check my eyesight today.

 

My tiglycerides dropped like a rock as I started getting control of my BG levels.  There's is definately a diect link there.

 

Its possible the eye stuff is due to diabetes.  Its also possible its due to being in your 40s.  (Everyone in my family went from perfect eyesight in their younger years to needing glasses in their 40s.)  It is, however, good to have a regular eye exam to they can keep an eye out for possible complications.

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Stl-T2

Hi! Sorry it took me a while to respond.  I didn't do anything in particular beyond eating low carb.  Triglycerides will definitely drop when your blood sugar is in a healthier range.  That, in turn, may help the other lipid numbers.  That's why I disagree with your doctor putting you on cholesterol meds right away.  In a month or two, it may be entirely unnecessary to treat it, but you may find it's difficult to persuade the doc you don't need it if the numbers come down after you're already taking meds. 

 

As for vision, mine got pretty screwed up when I was put on prednisone (which I blame for tipping me into full blown diabetes).  Then it fluctuated as I came off the prednisone, got diagnosed with D, and then changed my diet.  I'm not even certain it's stopped changing, yet.  I definitely lost some accommodation (the ability of the lens of the eye to flex which allows you to adjust from near vision to far vision) and now need bifocals, but I am 43 so that might have happened around now anyway.  However, my opthamologist said that exposure to high BGs will stiffen the lens of the eye. (We were talking about levels in the 300s. I'm not sure what the full range she considers "high" is in that context.)  That stiffening, at a molecular level, is the problem with high blood sugar and the root of diabetic complications -- glucose sticking to tissues and then forming advanced glycation end products which stiffen tissues and interferes with the way they work. 

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So, one other point I forgot to mention: don't be afraid to eat eggs (if you eat them).  If you look at my profile signature, you can see how much my cholesterol and trigs dropped in the first three months.  What you can't see is that I was eating three eggs with cheese and two strips of bacon at least 5 days a week for the entire time between diagnosis and the second lipid panel and plenty of other food containing cholesterol, as well.  

 

YMMV, as they say, and I know genetics plays a significant role in cholesterol metabolism, but I wanted to share my experience.

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I got my eyes checked and the doctor said nothing to worry except my prescription increased.  He said it is pretty common at 42.  I ate brown rice yesterday.  It is about 1/4th of the quantity I used to eat. After that my thinking turned a bit positive. For the past week, I have only been on greens and lentils. Looks like carbs are very essential. After 1.5 hours my reading was 133mg/dl with medicines.   I will slowly try out eggs as everyone saying egg whites are very good for health, but I am not there yet.  My weight now stabilized at 164 lbs, which is 10 lbs less that my original. (lost weight without any effort).

 

I feel that my hands are a bit cold - is that normal ?  

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Oriana

try eating this to get a egg without feeling like you are eating a egg

 

flax muffin

in a small microwave dish melt 1 tsp butter whisk in egg. add 1/4 cup flax, 1/2 tsp baking powder, cinnamon.mix. add in 1-2 tablespoon water. microwave 90 secs. you have to play with the amount of water to make it moist. you will get the hang of it.  it should be thin.

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Oriana, i will post my experience after trying the egg.  I am also trying to configure my signature to share the record.  Today morning I ate oatmeal at 9:00 AM and brown rice with steamed Cabbage at 12:30.  I checked at 2 PM and the reading is 103 mg/DL.  So, I can eat oatmeal, brown rice and cabbage.  (Readings are with medication)

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Oriana

try eating this to get a egg without feeling like you are eating a egg

 

flax muffin

in a small microwave dish melt 1 tsp butter whisk in egg. add 1/4 cup flax, 1/2 tsp baking powder, cinnamon.mix. add in 1-2 tablespoon water. microwave 90 secs. you have to play with the amount of water to make it moist. you will get the hang of it.  it should be thin.

sorry it should read ground flax or milled flax. the edit button isnt showing up for some reason

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hi STL-T2,

 

How can I control triglycerides and cholesterol levels ?  Also, I developed some eye sight.  Is it because of diabetes ?  I am going to check my eyesight today.

My vision was blurry for about 6 months off and on, when bringing my sugar down from the 350's to the 110's. It usually occurred in the evening. Dont forget to have your eyes tested for glaucoma ......its a must to do thing.

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I went to PEARL vision and this time, there was an eye doctor.  He said I don't have glaucoma or cataracts.   There are still concerns about what I should eat.  Today I checked the reading 30 mins after eating about 6 Oz of oatmeal.  It was 175. l Is it ok to reach that level. 

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Also why am I put on 3 medications ?  Metformin, Glipizide and Atrovastatin ?  If I control my blood sugar by next test scheduled after 3 months, will any of these medications be dropped?

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Ela
Today I checked the reading 30 mins after eating about 6 Oz of oatmeal.  It was 175. l Is it ok to reach that level.

 

 

There is a belief that organ damage starts at 140.  I don't think 175 is OK even if for a short time.

 

 

Also why am I put on 3 medications ?  Metformin, Glipizide and Atrovastatin ?  If I control my blood sugar by next test scheduled after 3 months, will any of these medications be dropped?

 

 

Trust me: your doctor will NEVER drop Atorvastatin.  Again - why don't you try to lower your cholesterol without it for a few months and see how it goes?  

Why they put you on it in the first place?  Because that's what they do lately - statins are a cash cow for the Pharma and Pharma managed to influence the doctors.  These days statins are tooted as the best thing ever....(THEY ARE NOT!!!!)

 

Will they drop Met and Glip?  They might.  And personally I wouldn't start Glip to begin with - it seems helpful sometimes, but at the same time it makes your BG unpredictable and also squeezes insulin from your pancreas till there is nothing to squeeze anymore - so people after being on Glip usually end up on insulin.

 

The Metformin on the other hand - I don't know what your doctor will do, but some do drop all medications once a person reached the normal levels.  It's wrong logic IMO.   My own doctor didn't tell me to drop it even though I reached normal levels pretty fast and said: "why try to fix something that is not broken.  It seems this regimen is working for you, so keep at it." 

I'm very fond of Metformin, it is very old proven drug that believed to be beneficial for more than diabetes alone, so I'm not in a hurry to drop it.  However there are members here that got off all drugs successfully and do fine with diet and exercise only.  It is possible.

 

One thing though: even IF you get to the normal levels pretty fast, it doesn't mean they're stable.  It takes time to stabilize.  So again - I wouldn't hurry, but it's just me.

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Dont take this the wrong way but you say you eat boiled lintels.  "Lintels" are the steel beams that go above a door or window frame to stop the weight of the house from flattening it!  I'm sorry, it makes for a funny picture in my twisted mind!  The word in "lentils!"

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