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Spike1192

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Spike1192

Recently diagnosed and forum newbie. I have lost about 40 lbs. I need to gain some weight, but am not clear on how to do so. Advice from my Dr. Was to have 45-60 carbs/meal & two 15c snacks. By my estimation, I am near this, but unclear on what else to eat to put on some pounds.

Any suggestions appreciated.

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samuraiguy

My go to weight gainer is nuts and nut butters. if you want to put on muscle weight--this can help with insulin resistance--eat more protein and do strength training at least 3 times per week.

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cplca

It's would be hard and irresponsible to make any suggestions without at least knowing a

bit more about yourself. Like your age, current weight and hight as well as your latest

A1c #'s and so on.

 

If just diagnosed, you should know that if you have been diabetic for some times before

diagnostic it might be normal for you to have lost some weight. If your body wasn't able

to effectively transfer glucose from your blood cells to your muscles, your body got that

glucose from other available sources like body fat as well as muscles mass.

 

With proper medication and diet your weight should go back up and you should regain

normal body weight in a few months. With proper medication and control your Doctor's

advice of close to normal amount of carbs is good. Once your body and muscles have

replenished and recover normal amount of glucose you should see an increase of 10 to 15 lb

to your total body weight. An average person's muscles require between 700 and 900 gm

of glucose as well as 4 to 5 times this amount in water. So, if you are totally depleted 

it would equate to 12 to 13 lb of rapid gain. For the rest if you really need more weight,

it is a process and as long as you know or find out what your normal caloric intake should be

you should be ok.

Find out what your BMR is and add 200 to 300 calories to it, with a bit of cardio and some muscle

building exercises so the you gain back your weight in lean body mass.

The bulk of your carbs should be taken early in the day or pre & post exercise with a good amount

of protein at the end of your day to promote better recovery and muscle building while you sleep.

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dowling gram

How many calories do you eat in a day. When you cut carbs you cut out a lot of calories. First look up how many calories you should eat for your gender and level of activity. There are sites on line to do this. Just type in calories needed in a day.

 

If you need to add calories look for things that are low in carbs and high in good fat. Here are some--Full fat cream, flax meal, nuts and nut butters, cheese, oils, unflavored greek yogurt. low carb ice cream. A favorite dessert of mine is sugar free jello that is set whirled into whipping cream. Don't be afraid of the fat as long as it's not transfat.

 

You've cut back on carbs and your body needs fuel for energy. If glucose is not available it will turn to fat burning. Your cholesterol may fall despite an increase in fat in your diet

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Spike1192

Cpica,

My height is 5'9" and weight now approx. 142. Was maybe a little overweight at 174 before. 36" waist now about 31. Having to buy new pants !

My original A1C was 11.1. Won't have new figures till March, but based on Glucous conversion, I'd say around 7 now.

Struggling to keep up weight let alone gain.

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notme

Nuts, dairy in the way of hard cheese, avacado, 1/2 and 1/2 in coffee, butter on veggies. All of these things will help gain some extra weight. Lots of snacks and small meals.

 

Stop worrying so much about gaining. Nobody has ever disappeared from low carb diets. :)

 

Do some muscle gaining activities. If you weigh 140 and are pure muscle you will feel great!

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cplca

Cpica,

My height is 5'9" and weight now approx. 142. Was maybe a little overweight at 174 before. 36" waist now about 31. Having to buy new pants !

My original A1C was 11.1. Won't have new figures till March, but based on Glucous conversion, I'd say around 7 now.

Struggling to keep up weight let alone gain.

Well, Spike1192. I am sorry to tell you that at 142lb you are just about where you should be.

Your current BMR is around 1500 cals So, you maintenance caloric intake should be about :

1800 cals if not very active, 2000 cals if you exercise 15 to 20 minutes per day and 2300 cals 

if you are very active. 

 

Muscle being heavier than fat, if you want to gain some of your weight back I would suggest a

muscle building exercise program and keep your caloric intake to maintenance level.

 

I know, it's a real pain when you need to get all new clothing but it can be rewarding at the same time.

I was a size 50" about 16 months ago and I am now 38" waist size. All of my tops were XXLarge and now

everything is in the Medium range.

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jwags

I have been doing 10-15 csrbs per meal for 9 years. With me higher Bgs tend ton are me lose weight. My weight was fairky stable at 118 for about 4 years. In the last 6 months I lost 6 pounds and weighed in at a scrawny 112 pounds. So I added about 600 calories a day and about 30 carbs a day. I did gain 3-4 pounds but my fasting went up So, increasing carbs is a delicate balance. I found eating Carb Smart Ice Cream at night definitely helped add the pounds on.

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Spike1192

Thanks for the Carb Smart Ice Cream - had never heard of it. Will try some.

My weight was a typo. Not 142, instead 132.

As for increasing weight, that's for all those who posted ideas. I have my first diabetics class this week (1 of 3), so I hope to learn from a dietician.

Best to all ! Thanks

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Kit

If you're on a low carb diet, I found the best way to increase or keep weight stable is to add a little extra protein.

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Spike1192

Had my first "training" class today. They suggested a 2000-2100 calorie meal plan with 45-60 carbs/meal and 2 15 carb snacks.

It would appear many others are way below these levels ?

The dietician / nurse was very concerned about my weight losses & I believe I dropped another 2-3 lbs in last 2 weeks.

Had a "full" Sonic burger for lunch and a Coke Zero. 2 hours later = 256 ! 30 min later =200. Hard to figure this stuff out !

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Kit

FYI - Those are the recommendations they give every diabetic, at least as far as the carb counts.  Calorie counts can vary but they rarely drop the carb counts..  That's the standard ADA line.

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Spike1192

Kit, yes I had read that those numbers were the standard guidelines. However, what else to do ? At this point, for me, I'm not into too much experimentation or altering medical advise on my own.

As I'm new to this, just poking around on the forum, I noticed a lot of lower carb totals mentioned ? Jwags (above) is 10-15 per meal ! Not sure how he keeps up energy & weight ?

So, was throwing the ADA standard out there for comments more than thinking I was enlightening anyone.

I did get some CarbSmart ice cream to try. Can't wait till desert time tonight !

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Kit

I was just pointing out that she didn't give you anything custom.  Just the usual.

 

I average around 25-35g carbs a day.  I eat over 100g of fat and around 70g of protein.  My weight has been pretty stable for the last year. at around 1500 calories a day.  but then I'm a 5'1" moderately active 40 some year old woman so obviously some customization there would be necessary.  :)

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DeusXM

A lot not being answered here. Firstly, 5'9" with a 31" waist sounds just about right to me. A 36" waist at that height is, I'm sorry to say, fat, so I don't really know why on earth you'd want to put on weight.

 

Secondly, we don't even know your gender or type! If you're a recently dxed T1, then as others have said, you're going to be putting weight back on pretty quick but you sure as heck don't need to regain another 40lbs. I'm 5'11" weighing 180 and I need to lose weight.

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Spike1192

DeusXM,

 

I do not think (better yet, feel like) 5'9 and now 128 lbs is a good weight for me. If I was in serious training to get to 1% body fat....maybe. :-)

The dietician's and my doctor agree my weight loss is alarming. If I remove my shirt, all skin and bones. I seem to have near zero energy reserves.

Having said that, I respect everyone's opinion. But, ...maybe I'm just "big boned"? I do not want to gain back up to 170+. Would settle for 10-15 pounds extra & think I'd feel much better. Just having trouble eating enough calories without the carbs.

Thanks,

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DeusXM

I would suggest you need to get your type retested.

 

132lbs and 128lbs are still 'normal' for your height (Western societies suffer from severe body dysmorphia as being overweight is seen as normal) but the fact you are losing weight so quickly doesn't really point to T2. Tiredness and weight loss are classic T1 symptoms.

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Spike1192

DeusXM,

I am under care of a specialist (endocrinologist) and this is still early. The last logs (food & BGL's 4 times a day) we reviewed was pleasing to my Dr.

We seem to be going back & forth about my diagnosis. While my weight loss from about last June has been significant, and in the last month I have lost 2-3 more pounds, I'm not at this point believing my medication or Dr is in error. Again, I'm new to this but I do know that everyone is different. My motabilism has always been pretty high. In younger days (high school - early 30's) I could hardly gain weight.

What I was trying to better understand is healthy ( or decent ) foods to eat for calories & carbs. So, I appreciate your comments & I might be a type 1 now or someday. But, my after meal BGL's in the 130-140 range is not alarming to any of my medical team for now.

Maybe (since I'm new here), I should be posting another "title" of in a different group on the forum ?

I know almost zero about nutrition "things". The CarbSmart Ice Cream was a good idea mentioned. But looking for advice on other "easy to find" products and foods to consume.

Thanks.

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jwags

I was also told to eat 45-60 carbs a meal plus 2 (15) carb snacks. I tried that for a few months and bgs went way too high. So I started to go very LC, more like 8-15 csrbs per meal. It did help with my bgs but I got way too thin. My weight was stable around 115-118 for 5 years and then I started to drop. Breyer's Carb Smart Ice Cream did the trick and I was able to add those pounds back. I get mine at Walmart. It comes in Chocolate and Vanilla and also it comes in Bars. It does taste indulgent. I make most of my own snacks now. There are lots of gluten free blogs that specialize in making treats without flour.

 

http://comfybelly.com/by-recipe/#.VpBImYY8KrU

 

 

https://elanaspantry.com

 

 

http://www.genaw.com/lowcarb/

 

 

 

 

http://alldayidreamaboutfood.com/recipe-index

 

 

http://www.ibreatheimhungry.com/recipes

 

 

As far as the Type 1 dx, get a GAD antibody,,c-peptide and other antibody panel taken. My c-peptide came out in the low side of normal but my GAD was negative. There is still some question whether I could be a slow onset LADA, Type 1.5. I was 10.9 at dx and 6.6 now.

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Spike1192

Thanks for all the links. Will check them out. I did find CarbSmart at Walmart. Got the chocolate ice cream and fudge bars. I WILL be buying more/ pretty good stuff.

Thanks again !

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