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halia

Hi guys, 

How is your lockdown situation? Are you on your second lockdown? How are you handling day to day life with the new norm?

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buddy7

'Are you on your second lockdown'? Yes, Not handling the situation very well at all, to be quite honest with you, I’ve had enough with lockdowns and Covid 19, I won’t consider this as a norm. Miss my family popping in from time to time, and with all these people dying around the world, this is far from being normality …. (Sick of it)

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adiantum
4 hours ago, halia said:

Hi guys, 

How is your lockdown situation? Are you on your second lockdown? How are you handling day to day life with the new norm?

Each state of Australia has its own lockdown procedure according to the infection. I'm very thankful its taken seriously  which is keeping us  in a controlled level .It deeply saddens me that 907 Australians have died of covid 19.

We are now 94th  on the list https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

 

South Australia has a recent cluster break out  of 23  so a 7 day  lockdown begins tonight at midnight ..just 2 1/2 hrs away.

This will be difficult but manageable.. Victoria has recently  succeded in  controlling their cluster.

 

 

"   .....From midnight tonight, for the next six days, all schools, pubs, cafes, takeaway food outlets and the construction industry will close. Exercise will be banned outside the house.

People will be restricted from going outside their homes. Only one person per household will be able to leave the home each day, but only for specific purposes.

People are being encouraged to wear masks whenever they are outside their homes.

Universities and all outdoor sport will be shut down, while elective surgery will cease. Weddings and funerals will also be banned.

Urgent operations and cancer treatment will be allowed to go ahead.

Only children of essential workers will be allowed to attend school in-person.

Critical infrastructure such as water, electricity and telecommunications will remain open, as will supermarkets.

Medical services, including mental health support, will be open, as will public transport.

All court buildings will close and cases will be adjourned for the next six days, except for urgent bail applications and intervention matters. 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-11-18/sa-ordered-into-major-lockdowns-amid-coronavirus-outbreak/12894666

 

@halia, dont feel like a victim, learn from the experience & take pleasure from knowing you are free of the virus.

 

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Dowling

There is no lockdown here. Our area has been relatively free of the virus. There are some restrictions on gatherings and more so in larger cities where the virus is more prevalent. Our governments have kept on top of things and for the most part citizens have followed their advice.

For myself I have self imposed restrictions. I don't travel anywhere I don't have to and I don't eat in restaurants. Not that I did much of that before Covid. If I don't want to cook I will order take out. Do I miss meeting friends--yes. Do I miss painting with my friends --Yes but that a small price to pay for keeping myself safe from the virus.

I learned years ago that no one can make you feel less than you are if you don't let them and that includes this virus. Think upbeat, find things to do to keep yourself busy, help others--give to a food bank if you can or check on an elderly neighbour. Plan what you are going to do when this virus is under control. Learn something new. This virus will pass we just have to bide our time. They've already found 2 vaccines that will soon available

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Hammer

There is no lockdown in my county.  As of now, my county has had 1540 confirmed cases, and 40 people have died from it.  I do know that many businesses in my area said that if they impose another lockdown, that they will ignore it, since they almost went bankrupt during the last lockdown.  These businesses have installed safety precautions, like plastic barriers between the customers and the staff, wipe down counter tops and other areas that people come in contact with, after every customer leaves, the staff must wear masks all of the time, and customers must wear masks to enter the business, they only allow a certain number of customers into the business at one time, etc.

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adiantum

Here, there are numerous financial packages allocated to businesses to prevent bankruptcy.

Soon every adult in Sydney will receive 4x $25 vouchers to spend at restaurants & entertainment venues to help get these industries back on their feet.

This will be given to every Australian by next year.

There are no cases within the county to which I belong & yet we still practise social isolation.

The local  petrol station allows just 4 people in their shop at a time.

 

I was amused at the antics 2 school leavers  came up with to celebrate end of year .

Crowd gatherings were limited to 30 people which wasnt going to be such a great party.

These boys pretended to get married so they could invite 150 guests.

 

https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/news/two-best-friends-get-married-to-bypass-coronavirus-restrictions-for-formal-afterparty/news-story/57fa29f17282af1d914993252db41af6

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halia
On 11/18/2020 at 3:32 PM, buddy7 said:

'Are you on your second lockdown'? Yes, Not handling the situation very well at all, to be quite honest with you, I’ve had enough with lockdowns and Covid 19, I won’t consider this as a norm. Miss my family popping in from time to time, and with all these people dying around the world, this is far from being normality …. (Sick of it)

I'm sorry to hear that buddy7. I'd like to share these strategies for keeping ourselves driven during these times, this article helps me a lot to cope with the anxiety I have experienced surviving this pandemic. I hope this helps you too. http://www.hermancain.org/2020/07/01/strategies-for-keeping-yourself-driven-amidst-covid-19/

 

 

On 11/18/2020 at 6:39 PM, adiantum said:

Each state of Australia has its own lockdown procedure according to the infection. I'm very thankful its taken seriously  which is keeping us  in a controlled level .It deeply saddens me that 907 Australians have died of covid 19.

We are now 94th  on the list https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

 

South Australia has a recent cluster break out  of 23  so a 7 day  lockdown begins tonight at midnight ..just 2 1/2 hrs away.

This will be difficult but manageable.. Victoria has recently  succeded in  controlling their cluster.

 

 

"   .....From midnight tonight, for the next six days, all schools, pubs, cafes, takeaway food outlets and the construction industry will close. Exercise will be banned outside the house.

People will be restricted from going outside their homes. Only one person per household will be able to leave the home each day, but only for specific purposes.

People are being encouraged to wear masks whenever they are outside their homes.

Universities and all outdoor sport will be shut down, while elective surgery will cease. Weddings and funerals will also be banned.

Urgent operations and cancer treatment will be allowed to go ahead.

Only children of essential workers will be allowed to attend school in-person.

Critical infrastructure such as water, electricity and telecommunications will remain open, as will supermarkets.

Medical services, including mental health support, will be open, as will public transport.

All court buildings will close and cases will be adjourned for the next six days, except for urgent bail applications and intervention matters. 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-11-18/sa-ordered-into-major-lockdowns-amid-coronavirus-outbreak/12894666

 

@halia, dont feel like a victim, learn from the experience & take pleasure from knowing you are free of the virus.

 

Thank you for the wise words @adiamtum! I'm glad you guys are able to manage everything better there. My country is still fighting relentlessly and doing our best here to flatten the curve. So far, we are getting there, and hopefully, this will end soon.

 

22 hours ago, Hammer said:

There is no lockdown in my county.  As of now, my county has had 1540 confirmed cases, and 40 people have died from it.  I do know that many businesses in my area said that if they impose another lockdown, that they will ignore it, since they almost went bankrupt during the last lockdown.  These businesses have installed safety precautions, like plastic barriers between the customers and the staff, wipe down counter tops and other areas that people come in contact with, after every customer leaves, the staff must wear masks all of the time, and customers must wear masks to enter the business, they only allow a certain number of customers into the business at one time, etc.

The same thing happened here, well probably all the business in the world has stopped running at some point, but the good thing is they were able to get back up again and I love how every establishment here in my country are following the protocols to its roots just to make everyone feel safe when going out. 

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adiantum

Theres some angry people in South Australia & it's all vented upon one person... a liar.

 

If only he had told the truth that he actually worked at the pizza shop instead of being a customer, the state would not have locked down.

People were just given a few hours to stock up on supplies & empty the toilet paper aisles before they were locked down.

Maybe he was an illegal immigrant, maybe he was getting wages when on welfare? who knows..he's a liar.

 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-11-20/how-a-lie-to-coronavirus-contact-tracers-sent-sa-into-lockdown/12904572

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bespawlerbison
There's no lockdown here. In one way I am one of the lucky people dealing with it. I still have a steady income and don't have any children in school. I really feel for the people who have to deal with both. I work alone and am an introvert by nature. Social distancing is not a problem for me.
But on the other hand, I work with 8 clients that could be easily affected by the virus. I am always concerned about the health of myself and the other staff that work during the day. My wife works at a different home similar to the one I work in. 1 staff came down with the virus and spread it through the whole house. 2 of the 8 clients are in the hospital one person has been in the hospital for over a week. For the past 3 weeks, my wife has been working in that home. So we're extremely on edge and being extremely careful. I don't want to catch it and risk spreading it to the people I care for. So right now life has us on full alert. Also, the vaccine is almost within reach. Maybe someday I can go to a buffet again. Haha. Everything is open here, I am just staying home as much as I can until things come under control. We never had much of a shutdown. The schools have been closed 75% of the time. Other than that everything remains open.
 
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halia

@bespawlerbison That's really alarming. I pray that your wife is safe and everyone who got it will recover successfully. I'm sure everything will go back to normal as soon as the vaccines will be made available. :)

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Dowling
3 hours ago, halia said:

@bespawlerbison That's really alarming. I pray that your wife is safe and everyone who got it will recover successfully. I'm sure everything will go back to normal as soon as the vaccines will be made available. :)

 

No I don't think things will be back to normal for a while after people are vaccinated. While things will open up and it will appear normal there are going to be people who don't get the vaccine or don't believe there is a pandemic and don't get vaccinated. While the vaccines are 95 % effective there is still that other 5% and no one knows how long immunity will last. I think I'll still be wearing a mask long after they are no longer required even after I'm vaccinated

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buddy7
3 hours ago, Dowling said:

95 % effective there is still that other 5% and no one knows how long immunity will last. I think I'll still be wearing a mask long after they are no longer required even after I'm vaccinated

How the race for a Covid-19 vaccine is getting dirty, Scientists worldwide who has been working against the clock to find a viable coronavirus vaccine, but are corners being cut for the sake of political gain and profit? Do you think the US/UK regulators who will decide the fate of Covid-19 vaccine? Now the vaccine is all but here do you think the regulators are dragging their feet delaying approval of immunization to the public?

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Hammer

Yes, like Dowling said, there will be many people who won't get the vaccine...I am one of those people.  I got my first flu shot when I was 61 years old, and the only reason that I got it was because my doctor said that the flu shot doesn't protect just me, it protects the people around me.  My daughter just gave birth to her son, and I didn't want to endanger him, so I decided to get the flu shot.  If it wasn't for that, I would to this day, never have gotten a flu shot. (At that point, I hadn't gotten the flu in more than 37 years, so why take the shot?)

 

The COVID-19 vaccine isn't safe, at least in my mind it's not safe.  When you consider how they did the clinical trials, I can't see how anyone can consider it safe, especially if you in my age bracket.  The tested it on people 40 years old or younger (I'm 67), who had no other health issues.(I have diabetes.)  The gave the vaccine to half of the test group, and they gave the placebo to the other half of test group.  They exposed the vaccinated group the virus, but they didn't expose the unvaccinated group to the virus, so what in the world was that going to tell you?  I know, "that only 10% of the vaccinated group got the virus, but 0% of the placebo group got the virus, so let's give everyone the placebo!"

 

If the clinical trials didn't include people over 40 with other health issues, then why would I trust the vaccine?  Heck, in people in my age group with other health issues, the vaccine might cause heart attacks, strokes, kidney or liver failure, and who knows what else?  No thanks, I'll wait a few years to see how people in my group are affected by the vaccines first, before I take it.

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TX_Clint

This is one time I must agree with you Hammer. There is zero evidence that either of the current vaccines are safe for people in our age group or with diabetes. 

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Dowling

These are the reasons I will take the vaccine when available.

1-Any chance to avoid this deadly virus is better than none

 

2-There are very few and short lasting side effects. The data says that mild side effects only last a day.

 

3-The science makes sense to me. These are not your usual vaccines where you take a bit of the virus and inject it. It wouldn't work with a coronavuirus. That is why drug companies have been working on vaccines ever since the SARS outbreak. There differences in all the vaccines developed. Moderna and Pfizer's vaccine is based on new science that is based on DNA and T-cells.  It puts receptors into the body that blocks the virus from entering the cells and organs. Astro-Zenica's is different. I'm not quite sure of their science and there are others. I'm sure will all be given close scrutiny before being released to the public. Some may be good for some age groups and not others. 

 

4-The main thing is that the  data is being reviewed by health organizations in each country and the WHO to make sure it is safe and as effective as the drug companies say it is. I know this is happening in Canada and the USA and I'm sure other countries are doing the same. If one of these organizations have complaints we will soon see it on the news.

 

That's my case for taking this vaccine. That is not to say I'll give up on health protocols but a maybe protection is better than none

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adiantum

Theres a possibility that Astro-Zenica may have a dud product.

"...............

Pressure has been mounting on the company all week, with a stream of scientists and researchers across the world joining Dr Porges' initial assessment.

Some labelled it "shaky science", while others questioned the legitimacy of the data released by the company.

Now, critically, the regulators are becoming involved.

And the issue, it seems, all comes down to a curious mistake.

Dosing by accident

The interim results of the phase 3 trial found the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine was 62 per cent effective in people who received two doses.

But when volunteers were given a half dose followed by a full dose, that efficacy shot up to 90 per cent.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-11-28/has-australia-picked-the-covid19-oxford-astrazeneca-vaccine-dud/12928128

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